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2008-04-18 01:46:07 -
Excuse me? Who are you? Have you had dealings with cssaglobal?
First off, your basing wvwrything you say on CSSAGlobals response to you. Is that a bit biased?
Second it's all just he said he said with no proof...
Here, take a look at this image of mt contract, please note CSSAGlobals STAMP and the owners signature
http://usfree.net/images/contract.gif
Why don't you investigate if your going to act like some god of scams reporter and get the truth right instead of being a dupe.
geez
2008-04-17 04:16:02 -
Just for the record guys, take a read here.
http://watshit.com/cssaglobal/
I think this clears up the whole issue.
2008-04-12 15:19:26 -
A heads up...
Do a Google search for CSSAGlobal Scam
The unhappy cutomers are starting to come out of the woodwork and voicing near carbon cipis of my complaint. Mr. Klieman seems to be trying to thwart any negative posts by posing as a happy client and bystander just as he did here.
I guess I've gotten the ball rolling, watch the snowball effect when others who have been ripped off follow suit. CSSAGlobal and GAF's feedback policy make for an explosive cocktail that allows overseas companies to get away with both fraud, theft and immunity from prosecution. If CSSAGlobal were a US company they'd all be shut down and convicted by now.
2008-04-11 06:55:48 -
Does anyone notice the lack of happy clients posts here? 1 month and nothing?
1 month since exclaiming "I have already instructed my team to upload the development and provide with complete report of activities done for Mr. Havill and his company by CSSAGlobal till date - which includes: design, database design, mockup, programming etc"
Folks, who's really the victim here? This thread is dead, I'll post the live site where anyone who is interested can see the contract with clear defined goals and specs, also the emails and admitted failures by Chetans team of novice coders.
I may even be inclined to post the crap code I was sent since by my contract I own the useless garbage.
Cheers
Steven
2008-03-29 15:17:03 -
I missed this part of his posting. Hahaha,
1. He chooses not to lie.
(ME?)
2. Puts forth crystal clear specs.
(Got the contract with crystal clear specs ready to go live)
3. Pays for the every now and then changes specified.
Let me see if I'm understanding this correctly.
If I send you more money you'll do what you originally agreed to do? In other words, the first bit of programming you sent me wasn't for real? Were you just kidding around with me?, But... if I send you more money ($1050) and then pay for additional programming UP FRONT, you'll really do the job you were supposed to do in the first place?
GEE, thanks
You just earned a site devoted to posting your signed contract, PM trails to your managers and emails with headers.
cheers
2008-03-29 15:14:03 -
*** I know you really wished to make money as well as keep the codes and enjoy the free development ***
Per the terms of our contract, this application was supposed to be built from the ground up, as we were going to own the copyright on the code when complete, and the code was to be heavily commented.
I looked at the code, Chetan. I'm a developer myself and I can honestly say that the code you sent was complete garbage. I would be embarrassed to provide that code to a paying customer.
As for the terms of the contract that are stated above, there are two problems. First, the majority of the code was a copy/paste job. I know this because of the second problem - the ONLY comments to be found in the code were copyright notices that were several years old.
As for "keeping the codes" and "free development", the code is worthless, and the development was not free. Even if you did refund all monies paid (as you should), your failure to live up to your end of the contract set our project back months and wasted a lot of our time - time that could have been spent conducting other business.
If you had any integrity at all, Chetan, you would offer to resolve this with at least a partial refund. Your failure to even try to meet half way speaks volumes about your character.
2008-03-29 14:48:10 -
MUHAHA
Chetan, do you know how painfully obvious your posts are becoming? The more you justify ripping me off the less your company looks legit!
I have become impossible to deal with? You have my money and I have nothing. Who's impossible here? I gave you 6 months to resolve a project that was to be 45-60 days and you sent me a piece of crap hoping it would get me to pour more money your way.
FreelancerFraud: You nailed it on the head. They never have refunded anyone I'd bet and never intend to. They "HONESTLY" will steal your money if they don't or can't complete a job correctly.
Just another warning... if you have serious programming to do, DO NOT USE THIS COMPANY. Just read Chetans replies, his almost robotic "this isn't new to me" replies that drip with contempt and that "I could really care less about it" attitude. Thanks for your money, there's the door. If I complain and get no response then taking it to the people makes me "IMPOSSIBLE"...
Chetan, "good" companies support their clients and make refunds if they can't complete what they contracted to do. You obviously blame the customer and then follow that with lies regarding the way things transpired. So you take my money and then follow that with insult.
What a joke!
2008-03-25 21:33:57 - FreelancerFraud
I must say, this is an interesting topic. It does not look good for the CSSAGlobal company. I wonder why the company would not just give a refund. It seems they did not complete the job yet (by their own admission).
The CSSAGlobal company also admits the buyer is not someone they will deal with now, so a refund should be expected and should not be a problem if the company really does have 6 US clients visiting them in India.
FreelancerFraud.com
2008-03-15 07:48:43 -
Steven:
I just read your earlier comments:
Quote:
Chetan, you made the claim that you run a premier company, an upstanding and honest company, yes?
Will you back that statement up by refunding my company the funds we paid for a software your company couldn't write?
I think refunding these funds would more than convince me and everyone else who reads this, that you are indeed a company that stands behind your contracts. If you can't complete a project you should be more than willing to refund the funds you've been paid, wouldn't you think?
I and all who are reading this eagerly await a positive response.
Unquote:
Absolutely No. At this point of juncture, it seems to me that you are quite impossible as a person altogether. You put in abuses, call my company a SCAM, Fraud and call me a thief over internet and you still expect that we do what you say? Amazing!
I simply couldn't reply any earlier since I was pretty busy with 6 clients from US who were visiting us here in India.
As per the last posting: I have already instructed my team to upload the development and provide with complete report of activities done for Mr. Havill and his company by CSSAGlobal till date - which includes: design, database design, mockup, programming etc.
Brgds,
Chetan Kelkar
CEO
CSSAGlobal
www.cssaglobal.com
2008-03-15 07:37:21 -
One more try of Blackmail: Just received via email and I prefer to answer in here.
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You haven’t begun to read what I plan to post.
I have decided that exposing your fraud is the better alternative. I’ve never bad mouthed you and yet you’ve lied without a conscious dispose regarding this issue. You and I both know exactly what’s going on here and there is absolutely nothing you can do to change this fact. There is no amount of lies or double speak that can correct the issues you have with my company. I have been robbed and I’ve been more than cordial to you, the robber.
Now, you have a choice.
1… You can refund the money you’ve stolen from me. I’ll stop any action and let you go on with your robbery of unsuspecting clients.
Or,
2… You can watch me start a campaign you never though possible. I’m an SEO and SE Marketer and unless you’d prefer to start from scratch, I’ll make the name CSSAGlobal unmarketable within 6 months, I promise.
Not a threat, just a promise. You robbed me and we both know this is a truth and a fact. We also both know you rob people every day and that this is your way of creating an income. You’re the thief and I was your target, I realize this and that’s fine. You need to credit me with a refund or you can start figuring out what the new company name will be. ALSO, I’ll make sure to follow through on any company you try to market.
I’ll make you famous, as a thief, trust me on this!
Thanks
Steven
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My reply:
Steven, nice try - if this is a threatening call / blackmail, I have made my position clear that I don't pay heed to such things.
You are a terrible liar Steven and I have substantial proofs to prove it.
What strikes me the most is that till date you have not attempted to suggest to resolve the situation when I emailed you in private to ask you the grievance - you choose to make this public instead of getting the issue resolved.
I am just following the suit and making it transparent. On top I would still like every one to know that we still stand by to resolve the solution for Mr. Havill if:
1. He chooses not to lie.
2. Puts forth crystal clear specs.
3. Pays for the every now and then changes specified.
Steven: I know you really wished to make money as well as keep the codes and enjoy the free development, but its really not possible. Bad luck! I am still open to resolve the situation amicably, but this kind of blackmail is certainly not the way.
For the namesake, I will be asking our clients to post their opinions about us, openly and transparently over here.
Brgds,
Chetan Kelkar
CEO
CSSAGlobal
2008-03-15 06:57:58 -
Good morning...
Chetan, you made the claim that you run a premier company, an upstanding and honest company, yes?
Will you back that statement up by refunding my company the funds we paid for a software your company couldn't write?
I think refunding these funds would more than convince me and everyone else who reads this, that you are indeed a company that stands behind your contracts. If you can't complete a project you should be more than willing to refund the funds you've been paid, wouldn't you think?
I and all who are reading this eagerly await a positive response.
Thank you
Steven
2008-03-07 14:09:25 -
I'm SAH's business partner on this project. I can verify that CSSA did not live up to their end of the bargain.
There were a lot of problems with the software and their living up to the terms of the contract in general, but there were two problems that were quite glaring - either of which were deal breakers.
First, the contract stated quite clearly that the entire package must be completely template based. This is a pretty standard feature of just about any web based software package. I would expect that so-called "professionals" would be competent in this area and would know about the various tools available in this area. When I had to introduce them to the SMARTY template engine from the people that publish the PHP language, I knew we were in trouble. SMARTY is very widely used and is quickly becoming the de-facto standard in template engines. The fact that these "professionals" had never even heard of it speaks volumes about their skills and experience.
Second, as was mentioned by my partner, there was no accounting functionality. This project was to be, in simplest terms, a shopping cart. Money was to be changing hands - from the end purchaser, to our users and ultimately to us. The software they were saying was "90% complete" had no accounting functionality whatsoever. There was NOTHING regarding money anywhere in the entire system. There was no way at all to charge our customers, maintain their balances or otherwise keep track of ANYTHING. For them to claim that "accounting" on a SHOPPING CART meant only "user accounts" ("When people say accounting, now unless explicitly specified all companies would go with the on actual website accounts to be considered and not a full blown system."), demonstrates their lack of experience, professionalism and business knowledge. Considering the nature of the project, this "misunderstanding" regarding the nature of the accounting functionality is alone enough of a reason to label this management of this company what they are - thieves.
2008-03-04 16:15:20 -
Jonathan... acting as if your just a satisfied client when in fact you ARE CSSAGlobal shows who has integirty in this thread.
Just didn't want anyone to miss that.
2008-03-04 16:04:47 -
Jonathan,
You completed a project with CSSAGlobal and I'm glad it went well for you. It went so well that you are the Canadian dealer for them, no? Pretty tough to be unbiased there.
There was no breakdown in communication or a disagreement about what was to be done, no expansion of service, no project bloat, just a breakdown in their ability to complete the programming as agreed and signed. If you had read this thread which you obviously didn't, I made every attempt to allow CSSAGlobal to resolve thier programming issues with ZERO response. They didn't follow any of the agreements made in the contract and certainly didn't do quality programming. When they realized we aren't the typical "KNOW NOTHING" company that they seem used to dealing with, they had no choice but to cut and run. After all, $650 in the hand is worth more than actually fixing their mistakes, right?
Again... POST THE PROJECT!!!
Let everyone see what you created for me. Give backend access so they can view the mess that was trying to be passed as a 90% complete CMS... thats all I ask.
Put your programming where your mouths are... simple
Cheers
2008-03-03 01:47:05 -
Calling a company that you have had disagreements with a scam is the act of a person with little to no integrity. CSSAGlobal made Probook.ca for me in record time, and I love it. A hundred thousand problems can cause errors in communication and cause a project to fall apart... but you know they are a legitimate programming company.
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